Sean Meighan
Software => LOR => Topic started by: RobertB on June 02, 2014, 04:32:08 AM
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I know LOR S3. No clue about Xlights / Nutcracker. Where do "Newbies" begin? I started looking at the May 15th tutorial and feel I probably need to start from the beginning ;)
Sooooo where might that be?
Robert
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Sean does post videos on Vimeo of each session.
His Vimeo page is: https://vimeo.com/user10339343/videos
The "title" of this one: https://vimeo.com/64391490 sounds promising, "Apr18 Intro Vixen LOR"
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The jan9 tutorial was the introduction to xlights, maybe start there. If you are a lor user u msy want to expirt lor ckip board files, *.lcb
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Great!
I will take a look at this tonight when I get home from work.
Robert
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Well.....
I did take a look at a bunch of videos. As they say though, if you don't use it you'll lose it ;-) I need back and rewatch some of the videos. I know the Jan9th is a intro to Xlights (which I will watch again). Is there one for Nutcracker as well.
REALLY need to start sequencing so I better get up to snuff on how to use this software!
Thanks!
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Each session Sean recorded is posted on that same web site. Look at the title description to select what topics you want to hear. I went back into 2013 recordings to pick up several topics even though the software has changed some. Other than the one mentioned above, there is no single all inclusive video on NC.
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Do you still need XAmp?
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No. You are looking at very old v 2 software. We have been on version 3 nutcracker for the last year. Be sure u download from nutcracker123.com/nutcracker/releases
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Yeah, but that's the problem, there is no basic intro to anything close to the current NC. I feel your pain, Robert, I'm trying to pick it up this late, too.
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...and I applaud Sean for ALL the hard work he has put into this software (and the gentleman who put together Xlights as well!). We need more people like this to keep the hobby moving forward. Kind of erked at LOR for what they are charging for Superstar...and that is why I am here.
I know in the vid (still haven't seen it all yet...long day at work) Sean mentions about a instructional pdf of Xlights / Nutcracker, but time has not been his side. I know what you mean brother! Maybe someone that is sharp with this could step up and help out with that project. I just know that there are probably many of us that are jumping into this now...and need the guidance. :-)
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RobertB--I would encourage you to just JUMP IN and start using XL/NC. Last year was my first year to sequence and I used LOR S3 as my sequencer. I jumped into pixels about this time last year (which was pretty late for me because all this computer stuff takes me time to understand...). Anyway, I had been introduced to XL/NC at a Mississippi mini so I decided to try my hand at XL/NC. It is extremely straightforward to use. I setup effects for six RGB arches in XL/NC then exported them into a dummy LOR file I made just for imports, then cut/pasted them into my LOR sequences. It worked really well. There are probably more sophisticated methods of doing this but I didn't have a lot of time to learn so that's how I did it last year. My two cents.
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Been trying to see how to make a dummy file for LOR as well. I can get a .las to come up, but nothing in the file. Been looking through videos to find that and haven't ran across this yet.
How did you do this?
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The best way to get something into LOR is to create your models and effects in NC, save the file just so you have it for later. Next, choose option to export model and the first option is for .lcb file. That is a clipboard file in LOR. Name the file. Then in LOR, you add that clipboard to your sequence and choose where you want to paste it.
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Under the videos in vimeo, look at jan9. That was the intro video.
https://vimeo.com/83935138
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I'm sorry, I spoke out of turn. The only intro video I had seen was way back before integration with XL. Somehow I missed the Jan 9 one. Watching it now. Thanks as always, Sean.
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RobertB--do what Sean said because that will obviously be the best way. If I remember correctly, I exported my six arches' effects (entire sequences) from XL/NC into an LOR dummy file, then cut/pasted the contents from the dummy LOR file (there is an LOR command along the lines of "copy everything to the end"--I used that0 into the "real" LOR sequence file. Knuckle dragging way but it worked really well.
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RobertB--I would encourage you to just JUMP IN and start using XL/NC. Last year was my first year to sequence and I used LOR S3 as my sequencer. I jumped into pixels about this time last year (which was pretty late for me because all this computer stuff takes me time to understand...). Anyway, I had been introduced to XL/NC at a Mississippi mini so I decided to try my hand at XL/NC. It is extremely straightforward to use. I setup effects for six RGB arches in XL/NC then exported them into a dummy LOR file I made just for imports, then cut/pasted them into my LOR sequences. It worked really well. There are probably more sophisticated methods of doing this but I didn't have a lot of time to learn so that's how I did it last year. My two cents.
I may have missed something is there a way to have the channel and universe information from XL/NC transfer to LOR. When I open the file in LOR I get the sequence fine but no patch or channel information. With over 20 universes of XL/NC sequences that is lot of channels to create in LOR
I plan on exporting the XL/NC to a LOR file per effect then use it as a sub sequence within LOR.
I would use XL/NC as the sequencer but I have a bunch of LOR windows command line batch files that run my video switcher, projector, RDS already working!
KEN
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Ken, are u exporting lms or lcb? I think lcb would be easier. Lcb, lor clip board, files are loaded and then u can just paste wherever u want the effect. Maybe lor people could explain how they use xlights.
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Hi Sean, I have a 16 strand mega tree in which the strands go up to the top of the tree and then come down on the same side ( What LOR called Wedge model).
while creating a model in NC how do I tell the software that my strands are wrapped in a wedge model.
thank you.
R Abraham
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Sounds like a 180 tree. My 8 strings of lights go halfway up the string and then turn and come back down right next to the up side. My model is 8 strings 16 strands in a 180 model. It works great. Is that what you mean by going up and coming back down on the same side?
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It is a 360 degree tree - 16 strands going up from the bottom of the tree to the top and then coming down on the same side - so 32 strands in total.
Also I created a megatree model in NC and exported it is a LOR file . named megatree.lcb
How do I open this in S3 and paste onto my LOR sequence. am not able to import.
Thanks much
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Ken, are u exporting lms or lcb? I think lcb would be easier. Lcb, lor clip board, files are loaded and then u can just paste wherever u want the effect. Maybe lor people could explain how they use xlights.
I was exporting LAS. I guess the real question do I need to add all of channels assignments to LOR directly or does XL/NC export that info.
thanks! I really light what XL/NC does now just to figure out this last thing!
KEN
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It is a 360 degree tree - 16 strands going up from the bottom of the tree to the top and then coming down on the same side - so 32 strands in total.
Also I created a megatree model in NC and exported it is a LOR file . named megatree.lcb
How do I open this in S3 and paste onto my LOR sequence. am not able to import.
Thanks much
So you have 16 strings with each string in 2 strands. I don't know what a wedge model is, but if the down strand is right next to the up strand then that is all it takes besides your starting postition and the number of nodes per string to describe it in a nutcracker model.
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Thanks Jim. I was not able to reproduce the models correctly on my tree and was wondering if it has anything to do with the way my strands are wrapped.
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Ranjanpa--as Sean has noted many many times, exporting XL/NC into LOR is a painful way to do things.... I did what you are looking to do when I added RGB arches to my 2013 display and it worked well. I set effects for my 6-60 RGB arches in XL/NC, then exported the entire XL/NC xseq file into a dummy LOR LMS file. I then copied each row (each arch group containing all 60 RGBs--180 channels each arch...) from the dummy file and pasted each row into the target LMS file. I saved the target LMS file then used LOR to run everything. That worked really well, but I only had 1080 channels total. If you have lots more channels, LOR will get really slow.
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I also have done a fair amount of copy and paste. 19 U 2200 rgb on just the mefg tree. There are certain things you may need to do to your computer to make sure it will work at its best when dealing with LOR and be patient it will get slow. You should look into the the 4g patch and make sure in LOR that you have turned off a check mark in the sequence editor\edit\preferences\network preferences\options\use compatibility mode for old MC-P channel controllers.
If can every get my brain around all of this I will get away from LOR
Have fun
It only gets better from here.
BP