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Hardware => General hardware => Topic started by: esset on December 03, 2015, 02:12:14 PM

Title: WS2812B broken one by one [Solved]
Post by: esset on December 03, 2015, 02:12:14 PM
Hi, I have 12 5 meters ws2812B in silicone tubes from Ray Wu's shop.
I was almost ready with my show but one string after one is going dead.
I notice if I cut the first 1-5 led/chip  it working again for a random minutes/hours/day.
The strip is 5volt and driven by a quality pc power supply with high power. I have also add an zenerdiod over the power to protect voltage over 5,5 volt. I can't understand what is breaking all my chips.
I have take down all stripes and when I test the strings that i know worked they get destroid when connect the power or the connector from sandevices E682. I'm 100% sure that the strip is connected correct and with 5volt. I dot dare to connect my few working until I can understand why this is happened?
It will be a dark christmas:(
Any clue?
 
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one
Post by: esset on December 03, 2015, 02:49:40 PM
I will try to add 270ohm resistor in serie on the data pin with a diod. Cathode to 5 volt and anode to the data input. Hopefully this will protect any disturbance from the controller port.
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one
Post by: danj on December 03, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
Have run pixels two years now (Ray Wu 5V WS2811 strips in IP68 tubes); have not experienced similar failures.   bought one set in 2013 and another set in 2014.  Sorry can't help you here...
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one
Post by: jediknight2 on December 03, 2015, 03:18:11 PM
What's the oulrput voltage on the PS?  Post a link to what you bought

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Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one
Post by: esset on December 03, 2015, 03:54:28 PM
Many thanks for the replys.
I think I found the problem, I had cable issue so I start unplug/connect the connectors to found where the cable was broken so each time when I did this I destroy one or several pixel on each stripe.
It was so frustrating,each time I try to test a new ledstripe it break down.
What I have learn today is. Never disconnect or connect the ledstripe when power is live, be sure to have correct cables that is proper connected from the beginning.

I have now repair all ledstripes with spareparts from a 5 meter ledstrip.

What type of cable are you using between the controller and stripe? I use cat5e cable for the data and separate thick speakercable for power.
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one
Post by: babybear on December 03, 2015, 06:06:09 PM
I'm running 16 gauge paired wire for my power and 18 gauge separate wire for my Data.  e682 controller and going 25 feet long. I am running ws2811 at 12 vcd    tree 8 strands at 100 nodes.   works out to 16 x 50.  been fine with all the rain in the northeast here  waiting for all the snow.
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one
Post by: kevinp on December 03, 2015, 07:44:12 PM
Never disconnect or connect the ledstripe when power is live

Not sure where I read it, here on the forum or maybe the FB group, but the E682 is not friendly to hot swapping of pixels as you found out.  I looked through the manual thinking it was there but didn't find it.  I might have missed it too?
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one
Post by: scuba on December 03, 2015, 10:19:10 PM
Cat5 for data; 14 or 12 gauge for power.  I use mostly 2811 or 2812.  I've had no problems
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one
Post by: esset on December 04, 2015, 08:47:21 AM
Cat5 for data; 14 or 12 gauge for power.  I use mostly 2811 or 2812.  I've had no problems
Hi, are you using a twisted pair, groud + data?
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one [Solved]
Post by: danj on December 04, 2015, 10:34:18 AM
I am using cat5e for data & power, including power injection.   I figured since I bought a 1000' roll of the stuff might as well put it to use.   I don't need all eight leads so I double up on everything.   For the power injection, I quadruple...   Kind of tedious to strip, solder, etc though....  I am using UTP cat5e from monoprice.

I am using E682s and I have plugging & unplugging my strips when powered up.   I will stop doing that....
Title: Re: WS2812B broken one by one [Solved]
Post by: esset on December 04, 2015, 11:44:28 AM
I am using cat5e for data & power, including power injection.   I figured since I bought a 1000' roll of the stuff might as well put it to use.   I don't need all eight leads so I double up on everything.   For the power injection, I quadruple...   Kind of tedious to strip, solder, etc though....  I am using UTP cat5e from monoprice.

I am using E682s and I have plugging & unplugging my strips when powered up.   I will stop doing that....
How much current can you take out from the POE adapter?