Sean Meighan
Hardware => Falcon Pi Player => Topic started by: George34 on October 15, 2017, 08:44:35 PM
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OK. Hi everyone. I think i got this but i just wanna make sure. So...i got the Pi formatted..FPP is up on the computer and I'm abt to see if i can dwnload some of my sequences. But then what? Do i diconnect the Pi player from my ethernet modem and run the cat5 to my falcon board or run a cat5 out of the modem to the falcon board or something completely different? Ive been looking at the vids but it didn't really say.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thx
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You have not really described what you want to do. Here is one scenario I use. all my Pis are in remote mode with a master inside my house next to the show wifi router and the FM transmitter. Once the Pi with FPP network is configured (wifi with static IP on show network and eth0 as a static made up network address that will coincide with the static IP on the F16v3). I disconnect the Pi from the computer and use a short ethernet cable to the F16v3/2 (both are in the same case in the yard). For the made up addresses I use part 4th number of the wifi address just for easy reference. ie.
wifi address is 192.168.1.235
eth0 becomes 192.168.35.1
F16v3 becomes 192.168.35.2
check enable routing box on the Pi network page.
add a route to the PC I am using to access the wifi network like route add -p 192.168.35.0 mask 255.255.255.255.0 192.168.1.235
viola I can now access the pi and the F16 config page from my computer.
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I use multiple network switches in the yard. All controllers attach to the network switches and finally a single cat5e cable goes inside the house to a show router. The FPP is also connected to the show router inside the house. Many ways to do this.
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Shit... I think I'm more confused. Lol
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Not surprised LOL what parts are you running? sounds like one Pi and one F16v3 is that correct?
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Yes .. That is correct. Heres a rough drawing of how im running it. I just ordered a wireless usb thing and a 16gig memory stick. So this is how it should be set up.
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Which version of Pi are you using? I presume an earlier model (one without built-in WiFi)?
Otherwise your drawing is a) adorable and b) pretty standard for most people's set-up.
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Let me ask one more question. Windows or Mac ok
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Ha... Yea a friend gave me the pi so yea not a built in wifi. Its not an old one but no built it wifi.
Ill b using windows.
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Your drawing is good. Now for the confusing part. Its the IP addresses. From your computer to the Pi it will be on your routers subnet. Like 192.168.1.2 The Number (1) being the subnet. Your wifi into the Pi would have something like 192.168.1.30. Now the Pi Ethernet out need to be on a different subnet something like 192.168.3.25 then the F16v3/2 would need to be set to 192.168.3.27 (3) being the key number. The fun part is in your windows command prompt you need to write a route statement with the numbers I used above it would read.
C:/>route -p add 192.168.3.27 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.30
this would give you the ability to access the F16v2/3 through Pi via wifi to change settings.
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Shit!!
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It really is not that bad sounds worst than it is .
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as usual keith has made a video that helps explain stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0fOZs6UgXw
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Man i can't get this. SOB!!
Will i be able to run my show with lap top if i can't get this pi thing wrkn?
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Would this b ezr if i get a pi3 that has wifi in it already?
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Would this b ezr if i get a pi3 that has wifi in it already?
Not really. Pi2 w WiFi adapter or Pi3 with built-in WiFi; both will still have to be configured as described above.
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Ok... I can't get this stupid thing to work. Let me ask this? Does the pi have to be wireless? I mean can i dwnload all my sequences on my memory stick and just run it off the pi like that? I can hook the pi up with my modem using the cat5 cable and get send my sequences like that. Would it work?
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No, the PI doesn't have to be wireless.
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Ok... I got 30days to get this going.
Now do i need that puddy program for anything on doing this?
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Huh?
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The PuTTY configuration i think is what he said on the Vid
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No, the PI doesn't have to be wireless.
The pi would have to be wireless if he is using the ethernet port connected to the F16.
That is only true unless he used a Ethernet switch to tie them together. Seems like it would be simpler to explain to a newbie if he had a pi3. This is my exact setup for my tree. I could send my saved config. But you would have to get the wireless working first with a usb wireless dongle if you keep the current pi.
If it is a F16V3, there is supposed to be updated firmware coming out that would eliminate the pi and make the F16 the wireless remote. I am hoping for that so I can eliminate my pi for the tree.
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Lets setup a basic setup. that's with out wifi. But first why wifi. when the show is running there is a lot of traffic running down the Ethernet cables. when tied into you home system it bogs down the internet commutations to the point it is useless. So the easiest way to get around this is a switch. Not a modem. so out of your modem mount a switch from the switch you have your Pi and your F16v2/3. Now just normal IP addresses. At this point everything will talk to each other. Once that is working either set up the FPP with times to run the show or manually start the show. Now you can unplug your modem from the switch. Once my show starts Thanksgiving day I don't touch it again until after the new year. After 10:30 at night it runs with a dim twinkle and the matrix displays the show times. In the morning once the sun comes up the twinkle goes to a 100% until 4:30 then show time.
Link for the switch I use, amazon 20.00
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002EQCW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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He already suggested that he’s wanting to connect his Pi to his modem (which is interpreted as a router).
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If it is a F16V3, there is supposed to be updated firmware coming out that would eliminate the pi and make the F16 the wireless remote. I am hoping for that so I can eliminate my pi for the tree.
The updated firmware when it comes will allow the Pi to be a player but you have to remove the uSD and take it to a computer to get the files on it. There will be no wireless updating.
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If it is a F16V3, there is supposed to be updated firmware coming out that would eliminate the pi and make the F16 the wireless remote. I am hoping for that so I can eliminate my pi for the tree.
The updated firmware when it comes will allow the Pi to be a player but you have to remove the uSD and take it to a computer to get the files on it. There will be no wireless updating.
I understand that. Not a problem, everything is tested and wont change for this year. It is just hard waiting for the release. I do have a backup pi running it now.
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Well...thanks for all that info. I started to set up my elements today praying i get this resovled b4 dec1.
Now to respond to what you all said..my show dosent have to be wireless. I just thought it had to be if i wanted the PI running my show. I can get a switch and go that route if it will work. Right now i can use the pi interface when its connected to my modem thru cat5. I just ordered a small clock for the pi and was going to try to set times for it to run. Download all my stuff to the pi using the interface. Set up a time /schedule and run it Like that. Not sure if that was going to work but I'm desperate.
I'll order the switch and get it to run it that way.
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Worse case... I can have my computer run the show using the schedular right?
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yes, computer> cat 5 > switch> cat 5 to controllers> to lights.
This is how i run my show, have had similiar problems with Pi and wireless.
So using Xl-schedular , you can run the show - easy peasy!!!
Cheers Boof63
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I like to ask why you are not using the FPP scheduler to run your show? Why do you need a clock for the PI? I also noticed you mention Putty. This is confusing to me as I use the FPP Webpage front end on the PI. Since I don't have a F16V3 then maybe I am missing something.
Here is your Simple!
Load the FPP OS on the PI SD Card using your PC, Plug it into the PI, plug in a usb stick to your PI, plug in the network cable from your router, power it on, open a webpage http://fpp, load your xlight sequences from your PC on it to the flash drive plugged in the PI using the web frontend, plug your F16V3 int the network, setup your channels on the PI, setup a schedule on the FPP. Test your channel config, sequences. You can also upload your sequences using xlights. This will take you to http://fpp or http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (ip address of the PI). Finally, make sure to use static IP addresses on your show equipment not dhcp from the router.
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The reason i got the clock cuz i thought since the wireless didn't connect it didn't have a clock to tell it when to start or stop.
So... Now. Let me tell you where I'm at and then mayb u can tell me which way to go.
I have the SD formatted.. Dowloaded to the PI .. PI is connected to my router thru cat5. I set up a static IP address and can getvon the fpp interface thru the web. Now i set the clock and date on the PI via web page and not sure if i downloaded it right but downloaded couple sequences and set them to a playlist.
Now that's as far as I got . at this point i was tryn to get the wireless connected so i can run the PI and connect it to the Falcon F16 via cat5.
Since the wireless never got connected this is where im stuck. I just ordered a desktop switch and couple cat5 cables and waiting for it to come in tomorrow.
I tried to use the xlight schedular and it messsed up all my sequences. I scared the crap out of me cuz i thought all my sequences were corrupted. I fixed it and got out of that scheduler.
So that's where I'm at.....
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He already suggested that he’s wanting to connect his Pi to his modem (which is interpreted as a router).
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Ok...I got the switch and cat6 cables delivered. Now what?
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I would say connect the switch to the router and then connect the Pi and the F16 to the switch. As far as the config and how the PI talks to the F16, I am not sure since I don't have an F16. However, I would think that the PI needs the channels setup for the F16 to receive the data. Maybe someone with that setup can help to get you going. Once you have that part configured and working then adding a wireless dongle to the PI then that should be a no brainer. I noticed on another post that there is a known wireless dongle that will work with the PI. Once you have a wireless dongle then you can disconnect the PI from the switch. I would assume at that point the router will connect to the PI wirelessly.
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Yea ..i just read abt the dongle. I ordered the one that was recommended. It should b in tomorrow. I have the cat5 connection so I'm hopn this dongle will fix the wireless issue. If it fires up then its all good in da hood!
Thx. Ill keep yall posted.
Appriciate the reply
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Ok... Got the dongle that was recommended. Now does it need to set to my computer with the hard drive or just plug it into the pi and go from there?
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Not sure what you mean “set to your computer,” so hard to understand exactly what your issue is.
But yes, plug into your Pi and go from there
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What i mean is I got the wireless dongle out of the box. Now there is a disk in the box and it says to load the disk into my computer and set it up. Since the dongle isnt going on my computer do i need to do this or just take it out of the box and just put it in the pi?