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Offline jnealand

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Strange things happening
« on: April 14, 2015, 01:46:41 PM »
4.0.20
- Create new animation 120 sec
- import timing txt file that has a mark every 10 secs and goes to 120 sec. This is an old audacity format timing file that I have often used for testing effects
- no timing marks shows up on any timing track, but I get two timing tracks one labeled "every 10 seconds" and one labeled "new timing"  but there are no timing marks
- I add 3 pixel tree models
- try to drag a spiral to any of the trees but nothing sticks after reading in a prior release that we could drag effects into the sequencer with no timing marks
- so I position my cursor in the waveform area at every 10 sec and press T and now I have timing marks
- I drag some effects to try them out. but I get different things in the model preview than what I am expecting.  What is supposed to be in the model preview window?  I thought it was supposed to be the model that is highlighted in the model column or the model that has the pink timing line in the sequencer window, but I have highlighted on the top model, with the timing highlight on the second model and the window is showing the effect that is on the third model.

So questions / issues are:
1. Why did my timing marks not import?  This is a known good timing file from 3.x.
2. What is supposed to be displayed in the model preview window? and how does it get changed?
3. What happened to the old F3 key to start and stop a model timing section to play?
4. Why do we not have a model selection window / icon to open that selection window up on the main screen?  It is hidden in a sub menu
5. Every effect I drag and drop seems to immediately play at super speed and has to be slowed way down.  That does not seem right.
6. We need to have defaults section where we can set the default constants for the metadata area and maybe for things like palettes, initial speeds, etc.

There seems to be a great number of things that are not intuitively obvious and I have been using nutcracker for the last two years.   I see a lot more strange things than I've listed, but I have not been able to go back and recreate them so I have not been reporting them.  I know this is a beta, but I'm finding it kind of frustrating.  And yes there are things I like as well.  but I fear the learning curve for newbies will be great.
Jim Nealand
Kennesaw, GA

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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2015, 02:12:28 PM »
Did you click the radio button beside the track you imported?  We only display one timing track at a time.  If you could not drop effects that means a timing track is active in which case you can only drop between timing marks and if you have no marks you can't drop.  I have a feeling you were in a state where you imported a timing track but had the "New Timing" track as the active track.  In that state you would see no timing marks and not be able to drop timings.

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Offline Lights On Fifth

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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2015, 03:37:48 PM »
What is the trick for copying and pasting in multiple elements?
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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2015, 03:59:28 PM »
Copy/paste should be working as of version 4.0.20.  If you can do a single copy paste then multiple is the same technique except you drag select several effects first.  When you drag with the mouse down you should see a yellow selection box and it highlight the selected effect purple.  Then Control-C to copy.  Then you must select a destination empty cell so you need to have a timing layer active to click between two timing marks.  You will see the empy cell highlight.  Then Control-V to paste.  I've got it set to paste all the effects relative to the first effect on the topmost layer of the selection.

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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2015, 04:40:48 PM »
Control + F4 before you paste the timing marks. Try that.
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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2015, 04:50:03 PM »
I don't think cut/paste works on timing marks.
And flyinverted I thought you were supposed to tell people Alt + F4. :)

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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2015, 06:34:00 PM »
Working exactly as you described Gilrock  :) this thing is awesome.
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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2015, 08:08:42 PM »
I tried clicking each timing track button and got nothing.  Even started over a couple of times and was not successful importing a timing track using the wizard or by importing after I exited the wizard and saw there were no timing tracks.  I will attach my timing track file.
Jim Nealand
Kennesaw, GA

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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2015, 12:05:16 AM »
I don't know I imported your file into one of my sequences and it worked.

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Re: Strange things happening
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 08:51:47 AM »
Jim, I also imported your 10 Second timing file and it came right in, every 10 seconds.
I right clicked on the existing Timing track, chose Import Timing Track, selected your file and - boom, there it was.