Thanks for looking, Gil. No data layers in this sequence, just xlights effects. I was not doing anything "fast" in this case. In this case I hit the save button and was watching the save process down at the bottom left. The crash only happened once; the rest of my saves/render-alls (after adding this effect to the WHM) worked fine with no problems. The save time did go from around 4-5 seconds to about 28 seconds after dropping that effect onto the WHM. I guess there was that much more info to render on all the models compared to before I dropped that effect onto the WHM?