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Offline danj

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Need to tweak on LOR sequences imported into XL/NC
« on: March 07, 2015, 07:24:02 PM »
I have now converted all my LOR files into XL/NC (thanks for the help last fall, Sean) and now I want to adjust some of the LOR RGB effects.  What is the best way to do this?   I need to coordinate my RGB arches' color schemes with my megatrees (megatree NC effects all added in XL/NC after importing LOR files).   Long story here--in 2013 I sequenced my RGB effects with XL/NC then exported them into LOR (I know now I should not do that, but that is water under the bridge now!!!) and I don't think I saved the xml files at that time.   I am going to look for the xml files to see if I can find them, then all will be good.   I could generate new effects in XL/NC, but I am concerned that any transitions from the new effects "back" to the original LOR data stream will be abrupt...   Any ideas??
Thanks in advance!!!!!
« Last Edit: March 08, 2015, 09:03:40 PM by danj »

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Re: Need to tweak on LOR sequences imported into LOR
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2015, 11:54:00 AM »
Start over - LOL  XL4 is going to offer some amazing new ways to do things.  Even last year with ver 3 I used all new songs and 100% new sequences.  Granted I used the whole house model and "create random" a lot, but I am not an accomplished sequencer.  But the bottom line is that the audience thought it was fine.  Hopefully next year my sequences will get better, but I am probably going to start all over again myself as every year I learn more on how to do things with the software.  To me it is kind of like a computer that gets slower and slower.  You erase the hard disk and reload everything from scratch and voila a fast computer.  At least for awhile - lol.  I think old sequences also suffer from too much modification year after year and not looking at the best way to do things with newer software.  YMMV
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Re: Need to tweak on LOR sequences imported into LOR
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2015, 09:03:15 PM »
Great point Jim.   I just don't want to lose all the work I put into these suckers!!!!

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Re: Need to tweak on LOR sequences imported into XL/NC
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2015, 07:53:11 AM »
This is something that I think XL4 will really help with.   You can "import" your LOR effect as a layer to use as an initial base.   Then, slowly overlay it with appropriate or equivalent effects.

The really good thing about XL4 compared to XL3 is that the "Play Model" ability in XL4 plays the actual underlying rendered data.   In XL3, it would "live render" each effect as it went down the grid.   Thus, stuff that was already in the xseq file didn't get played.   In XL4, because it's playing the actual data, anything already in the fseq (like from the layers) does play.   

I just discovered this advantage this weekend (and I'm the one that wrote the new play routines so just discovering this now is kind of ironic).  Much of my sequencing is done in HLS.  With XL3, I could see the whole thing running on the Preview screen (I have models defined for everything I sequence in HLS).  However, on the Nutcracker tab, I could only see the stuff I was "adding" to the sequence.   With XL4, I hit "play" for my models and I got to see the HLS effects for that model along with the effects I added.    Very cool.   
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Re: Need to tweak on LOR sequences imported into XL/NC
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2015, 11:07:54 AM »
Thanks Dan.  I am going to go ahead & try to find my old (2013) xml files so if possible I will have the original xml files.  Then I wouldn't have to be concerned about layering and having abrupt transitions to/from an original effect to/from a new effect..  Looking forward to xl4!!!!

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Re: Need to tweak on LOR sequences imported into XL/NC
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2015, 08:12:52 AM »
Dan kulp, that is funny. You are the architect of our core playback engine. What you described , I will have to make a tutorial. I think every vixen,Hls,lor user will use the technique you described


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