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Offline Gilrock

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Questions from DIYC forum
« on: April 22, 2015, 03:25:21 PM »
A user was asking me these questions privately on DIYC.  The DIYC forum is acting up and it wouldn't let me post a response to the message so I'm posting it here since it may benefit others.   I encourage everyone to ask questions publicly since it will give other users and developers a chance to help carry the load of answering questions as well as other users may have the same question.

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When you get a chance, can you answer some of these:
1.  Is there any plans to have multiple effect changes?  For example, I have 20 effects, I select them all and then apply or change parameters, like colors (similar to SuperStar and Vixen).
2.  Does undo and redo not work?  I have tried and it doesn't seem to work.
3.  When I copy an effect, why doesn't it paste the same length?
4.  I inserted an effect and then moved it and it "docked" into another.  How do I undock or separate them?  So far, I have to copy, then delete, then paste back.
5.  It would be nice to be able to select multiple effects, then right click and have feature to set all to same length, same start/stop time, etc.
6.  I'm tyring to mimic some of the effects that Vixen has, and can't seem to be able to do so.  For example, I have a window, I want to start at the bottom left corner and chase clockwise with persistence, then once I get the window "filled", go back.  I did this with curtain in Vixen, but curtain doesn't behave the same way, I guess because of how the models are built.  In Vixen, the windows are basically 4 separate strings.  Any guidance would be great.
7.  On the fire effect, color changes don't work.  Only hue shift.
8.  What are playlists?
9.  Anyway to have the sequence remember where I had zoom set, so when I open next time I don't have to do again?

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1. There aren't really any plans.  There are multiple developers and they just kinda do whatever they want.  Sometimes it's a battle because one guys checks in changes that go against what someone else is trying to do.  If you want a new feature it's best to enter an issue ticket on Github or people will forget about it.
2. There is no undo/redo feature anywhere that I know of.
3. A single effect paste will paste into the length of the selected cell.   A multiple effect paste will paste them all with the original time lengths.  Later I could see us having selectable modes "Paste by Time" and "Paste by Cell".  So one developer did the single effect copy/paste and I did the multiple effect copy/paste so that's what we ended up with.
4. No way to unmagnetize effects yet.  Either copy/paste or what I do is click the effect...delete it...then drag a new one down which will be an exact copy of the settings.
5. Yep a lot of things would be nice...do you write code? :)
6. I don't have window type models but there is a way to do what you want but it's clumsy.  You gotta create a 2nd dummy model that's a straight line, map it to the same channels, and use it to drop the effect on.  If the model is drawn as a square the effect is not going to display as if it's a single string it's going to display as if it's a matrix with no middle.  Everything is modeled as a flat rectangle.
7. Sounds like a bug that needs to be logged.
8. I've never used the Playlists.  You can use xLights to schedule and play your show but I always use the falcon Pi player.
9. Anything is possible.  That's another enchancement request.  I leave it up to the user's to create the enhancement tickets.  If its something I want I just fix it myself.

You other question about the effect not updating is fully answered by my post on the xLights forum earlier today.  Next release should have those improvements.

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Re: Questions from DIYC forum
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2015, 04:21:09 PM »
Thanks Gil. I will post my questions public next time, sorry about that.

As for #5, I can break code. Does that help?

Thanks for the response, very helpful.

James

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Re: Questions from DIYC forum
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2015, 04:56:30 PM »
No problem.  I have seen you answer other users questions here from so I don't mind helping when I see the knowledge get passed on.  I still can't get into DIYC.  Apparently they are having DNS issues with the info not propagating after the server upgrade.  I got in long enough to see the questions then it wouldn't let me post the reply.  Luckily I was able to hit back and copy all my answers.

Regarding enhancements there are so many things the developers would like to do it just takes time.  I juggle a lot of things.  Full time job, singing in the choir, playing drums on praise team, assistant scoutmaster, planning a small show for a high school graduation, and 2 teenagers that get to see me sometimes. Not to mention I'd like to add a new song or two to my own show as well as I need to build an 85x64 matrix sometime this summer.  ;)


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Re: Questions from DIYC forum
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2015, 05:02:14 PM »
#7 is not a bug. That is the way fire works, via Hue.

Steve Giron
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Re: Questions from DIYC forum
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 08:35:24 PM »
#7 is not a bug. That is the way fire works, via Hue.
Ok, thank you for the clarification.

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Re: Questions from DIYC forum
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 08:40:35 PM »
No problem.  I have seen you answer other users questions here from so I don't mind helping when I see the knowledge get passed on.  I still can't get into DIYC.  Apparently they are having DNS issues with the info not propagating after the server upgrade.  I got in long enough to see the questions then it wouldn't let me post the reply.  Luckily I was able to hit back and copy all my answers.

Regarding enhancements there are so many things the developers would like to do it just takes time.  I juggle a lot of things.  Full time job, singing in the choir, playing drums on praise team, assistant scoutmaster, planning a small show for a high school graduation, and 2 teenagers that get to see me sometimes. Not to mention I'd like to add a new song or two to my own show as well as I need to build an 85x64 matrix sometime this summer.  ;)
I completely understand that you have other things going on.  Me personally, I'm impressed that all of you guys are able to do as much as you do. And lately, you seem to be adding things that I wanted added, like superstar type effects, on your own.

Thank you.

James