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Offline dwetzel

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analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« on: June 18, 2015, 06:44:50 AM »
I didn't see this posted anywhere, if it is duplicated I apologize.

Windows media player has a visualization addition called Analyzer. Here is a youtube video link,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOYp0FfVE4Q.

When you install the analyzer it has several variations to pick from and I would like to see these available in Xlights. Here is the installation link,

http://mihasoftware.com/applications/analyzed/

Thanks for all the great work put into Xlights, it is awesome.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 08:51:34 AM by sean »

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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 07:39:02 AM »
I think these spectrum effects would look great on my 32 pole light fountain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQoahd7ZfRk

Along with a few others would be excelent on a large grid.

Just saying.  :)

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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 10:29:23 AM »
You can do these types of effects TODAY with the Glediator effect.

Glediator is a free pixel grid/led effects generator.  What? How?

1. Install Glediator
2. Create a grid with the X,Y sizes of your model
3. Create effects
4. Capture the effect and save as something.GLED
5. In Nutcracker use the GLED effect and select the something.GLED you just created

Sean created a How-To video here:
https://vimeo.com/114314817
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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 12:28:46 PM »
I believe that dwetzel is looking at the effect that could be synced to music rather than just having an analyzer type of effect. 

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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 12:43:00 PM »
I posted this on the FB group as well:

If you've used Glediator, you will probably like Jinx. It has all of the Glediator options plus a few more. Use it just as you would glediator, except save your file as .GLED instead of .OUT I especially like the ability to create effects with audio input via Spectrum Analyzer or VU-Meter.

Jinx can be found at http://www.live-leds.de/

Here's a sample I created with the VU-Meter option. www.stevesimages.com/xlights4/vu-meter.gif
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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 12:59:52 PM »
Thanks I'll have to give that a try. It will be interesting translating it over to my light fountain that is single channel incan elements.

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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 01:34:20 PM »
Yes I did want the effect to be linked to the sound file. But I will check out the other options that have been suggested. This is an awesome group and very willing to help. Thank you all.

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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 03:18:30 PM »
Well the good news is the effect ONLY uses audio for input, so as long as you start the effect at the same point you did the capture you're good to go.
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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2015, 04:22:11 PM »
Thanks for posting this Steve !
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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2015, 11:45:31 PM »
I posted this on the FB group as well:

If you've used Glediator, you will probably like Jinx. It has all of the Glediator options plus a few more. Use it just as you would glediator, except save your file as .GLED instead of .OUT I especially like the ability to create effects with audio input via Spectrum Analyzer or VU-Meter.

Jinx can be found at http://www.live-leds.de/

Here's a sample I created with the VU-Meter option. www.stevesimages.com/xlights4/vu-meter.gif

Hi Steve,
I had a look at this yesterday after this post.
I thought that the spectrum or VU effect on a matrix would look good.
I could not however understand , how to get either of those effects done.
What I tried after reading the manual was to play my MP3 using windows media player.
I then selected one of those effects and expected to see the bars move up and down to the music.
They seemed to be moving up and down slightly even without the music playing.
So I guess I Must be missing a step where I start a capture when the song plays or when it reaches the point that I then want to play as an effect . and then stop after say 4 bars.
A few steps ie the idiots guide to doing this would be appreciated.


Regards
Gerry

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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2015, 12:23:46 AM »
Windows>Control Panel>Hardware and Sound>Manage Audio Devices > Recording

The active device is what Jinx will use. I was lucky enough that my audio card allows for loopback, meaning it can play a sound out and loop that sound back in digitally for processing.

If you can't do that, you can use your speakers for output and the microphone for input.

Adjust the sensitivity in Jinx. Audio VU Meter> Edit> Gain. The effect is real-time so you can set the sensitivity easily.

That's all there is to it.
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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2015, 12:42:08 AM »
Thanks Steve,

I will try that Tom as soon as I get back home - am at my in laws and being told off by my better half for being unsociable  :)

Regards
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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2015, 06:12:04 AM »
Steve is correct.

Microsoft removed the ability to loop the audio output back to the audio input of it's audio manager.

There are several solutions to this however.
One is like steve and that is to have an audio card that supports that loopback capability.
Two is to use the Mic/speaker but that can pick up spurious noise sometimes even in a very quiet room.
The final way is to use a software solution called a virtual cable.
I purchased the following program very successfully.
Virtual Audio Cable
http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm
I use small batch programs to enable and disable the program.
There is a small learning curve but with a little computer savvy and a couple of video how tos it works great.

I also found another virtual cable program that is donation ware but have not tried it yet.
VB-Audio Virtual Apps
http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/
I have downloaded it but not tested it's capabilities yet.

Hope that helps

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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2015, 03:04:28 AM »
Thank you !
Gerry

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Re: analyzer like effect used in windows media player
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2015, 08:41:01 AM »
Did you ever get this to work? 

I like the analyzer / equalizer effect too, and would be great to have that on verticals to the beat.  I tried briefly in Jinx, but the equalizer was triggering on a lot more than the beat within the song (which is what I was trying to do).

Sounds like a great effect in nutcracker! I tried using existing effects, but couldn't get the accuracy of the beats to work out (single strand, spirals, etc.).
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