Author Topic: xlights 4.1.12. Vamp plugins now part of xLights, Audacity no longer needed  (Read 12924 times)

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xlights 4.1.12. Vamp plugins now part of xLights, Audacity no longer needed

Dan Kulp has added the full set of Vamp Utilities into xLights!
Nice job.

Dan saw an announcement from the Vixen3 team that they were adding the Vamp utilities, he thought that was a good idea. In the following email Dan is referring to the ability to draw the Vamp labels right on the timing mark. Move a timing mark and the beat number moves with it.

So thanks to the Vixen3 team for the idea of adding the Vamp plugins and thanks to Dan for implementing it!


Here is an email exchange between Gil and Dan on the development team.

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Dan wrote:
I saw their announcement and decided it shouldn’t be that hard to do…...


Gil wrote> The screenshots they posted do look really nice though.  I like that polished look but it seems hard to do when you are using CodeBlocks and trying to work on so many platforms (Windows, Linux, MAC) and resolutions.

Dan Wrote: Well, the big thing is that they only limited it to the Beats/Bars capability from the QM set.   By doing that, you can make a custom GUI just for that that works nicer.   However, I was trying to get all the various VAMP plugins to work so the gui needed to be more generic to allow setting of all the various VAMP things.   We could optimize later and if it is the QM Beats/Bar plugin, flip to a more custom thing, but at this point, I just wanted it to work.   


Gil>  Dan did you have any other plans for the drawing of the text on the timings?  That was something I had been wanting to do also so I'm glad you got it working. 

Dan>I’m not “happy” about how it works, but it at least displays some text.   Glut has two methods for the text, the bitmap form and a vector form.   I couldn’t get the vector stuff to work well, but I really didn’t spend much time on it.   I wanted to devote the time to the VAMP stuff.  Thus, I flipped to the bitmap stuff which was simpler.  However, the bitmap stuff is kind of crappy as it really depends on the screen.   The text is TINY on a HiDPI windows box.   On the mac, it’s different sized depending on if I use my Retina display or my external monitor.   Definitely not happy about that.   That said, the vector form may not look very nice at the small size we need.   

Basically, I wanted something as quick as possible to make sure the labels are captured from the VAMP stuff.  What’s there is the first thing I got working.   Feel free to change it. 

Dan"




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4.1.12  Jul 20, 2015
    -- enh (dkulp) If VAMP plugins are found, allow using them to generating timing rows

So again thanks to the Vixen3 team for the idea and thanks to Dan for putting it into xLights

To help you see how to use it, i have made a small video.

https://vimeo.com/134060834
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Thanks to Sean, Dan, & Gil for this AWESOME software package!!!
Thank you.   Thank you.   Thank you.

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I'm using the mac version of 4.1.12 but can't seem to get the options for creating beat tracks using the vamp plugins. When I create a new sequence and follow the instructions from Sean's video, when i click import timings and click new, I only get the very few basic options that have been in Xlights already and do not see the audacity vamp options showing u (beat tracks etc).
I downloaded audacity onto my macbook in case it needed to bring the plugins down with it onto the Macbook but it didn't seem to help. What step am I missing here?
Thanks.

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Ignore my post above. Just worked it out  ;D

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If you go to the page where the latest Xlights 4 software is located for the windows version you will find a link to the Queen Mary Vamp plugins page. The link that talks about the Linux version of the plugins has the Mac OS X version also.
Just get those plugins and then  stick them here    :/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Vamp
The "vamp" folder won't exist... just make the folder and then put in the plugins.
Should work after that (I don't think I missed out a step)

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Rofl I deleted my post because I figured it out a few minutes after asking, but thanks for the reply :)
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Glad to hear you got it sorted

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Logan: 
What's the path for the plugins folder - What comes BEFORE the colon?

"Just get those plugins and then  stick them here    :/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Vamp"

Does the new plugins folder need to be inside the xLights folder?  Or just off the C drive?

Thanks
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You need to install them into Audacity and then they will be available to xLights.  There should be plenty of info for how to get them installed into Audacity.

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You need to install them into Audacity and then they will be available to xLights.  There should be plenty of info for how to get them installed into Audacity.

Hi Gil,
I already had that (Audacity installed ) , so have no problem , but for someone new are you saying that either

1. The person needs to install Audacity and the VAMP plug ins first OR
2. Separately install the VAMP plug ins only

(Option 1 preferred)

and then only will the new functionality work ?

Gerry

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You don't need to install Audacity.  There is a Windows self install .exe link on the release page for the Queen Mary Vamp plugins.  Download, install and then enjoy in xLights.  I did this on my work PC so I know it works.  The drop down list only consisted of the normal options, so I couldn't utilize the new vamp features until I installed the plugins.

Not sure about the Mac since I already had Audacity installed at home.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2015, 05:01:18 PM by kevinp »
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You don't need to install Audacity.  There is a Windows self install .exe link on the release page for the Queen Mary Vamp plugins.  Download, install and then enjoy in xLights.  I did this on my work PC so I know it works.

Thanks Kevin. Doco update :)
Gerry

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Thanks Kevin.  Worked great!

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All I know is if you have the plugins working in Audacity they will work in xLights.  Everyone needs Audacity at some point anyways.

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All I know is if you have the plugins working in Audacity they will work in xLights.  Everyone needs Audacity at some point anyways.

True , Gil ; this will come up again , cause folks may be coming across from a sequencer that did not support Audacity (yes it is true) and as such may not have it installed.

So , now we are armed with the response !
 
Gerry