Combining LOR and xlight sequence

[rando1957]

I have an LOR sequence that I have completed. Separately I created an XL/NC sequence for an RGB model, thinking that I would import into LOR; however, the speed is so slow in LOR and file size so big, I decided to see if I can run this all via XL.  The LOR and XL sequences are using the same mp3 but the file names I save them are different.  Can I rename the LOR .lms file to match XL name and then convert and join the two together or do I have to just take the model export in XL and copy into LOR?

Also, I spent some time drawing my LOR props/fixtures as XL models but having a difficult time trying to get them to show up in previews.  Do i need to add them as models in NC tab, save and then see in preview?

[colonelcline]

Also, I spent some time drawing my LOR props/fixtures as XL models but having a difficult time trying to get them to show up in previews.  Do i need to add them as models in NC tab, save and then see in preview?

I went thru this and it was the  starting channels not being right. If you are off one channel it can make Green Red or Blue or you will see an odd set of lights on another prop. I also and still have problems finding that starting channel for a LOR box, ie ID 3 is hardwired at 33 and if you don't have a 1 or 2 ID or they are in another universe, it leaves some blanks. BUT you can use the preview to fine tune the starting point. Also comparing the setup channels start and finish to what you have helps.

[rando1957]

All my channels are lined up fine so that is not the issue.  I actually had converted a song and while I had it loaded, i started building all the 'LOR props' and played the song fine. Then shut down XL and brought it back up later and could not get the display to work.  The models are all there but could not get them to show up on that song or any other .lms converted songs.

The other problem I was having was combining the two sequences is more of challenge. I know there is a way to do this without having to load clipboard into LOR and then bring back into XL.

[colonelcline]

could not get the display to work.  The models are all there but could not get them to show up on that song or any other .lms converted songs.

Yes mine (Preview Model Display) "disappeared" except one model yesterday. They are there in the xml file. On my list to figure out...

The other problem I was having was combining the two sequences is more of challenge. I know there is a way to do this without having to load clipboard into LOR and then bring back into XL.

Let us know if you find out. The "party line" is to bring the lms into Xl and never leave. But I hedge my bets and want the option of running the sequence in either one or Pi.

[colonelcline]

Yes mine (Preview Model Display) "disappeared" except one model yesterday. They are there in the xml file. On my list to figure out...

in the xlights_rgbeffects file change the MyDisplay value from 0 to 1. 

[rando1957]

Well I believe that worked.  I was also able to rename my LOR .lms file to the same name as the XL file name that I created my RGB model and combine the two.  Still some challenges as to getting both LOR props and RGB model showing in the preview pane.  Something more to tweak for a bit.  Thanks for the advice.

[rando1957]

Colonelcline,
I still am not getting my LOR props to show up at same time as the NC model.  Mydisplay = 1 in the rgbeffects file in all cases.
One thing I did though was in the NC tab, I added some LOR props and added effects 'none,none' in every cell. Saved file, then reload in preview tab. Those LOR props and NC model both showed up. Do I need to do this in every case to view LOR props?  I am sure the LOR effects are in my file, just not showing up in preview tab.

[sean]

If you want imported lor data to show in the preview u need to make a model for them. You do NOT need to add this model into the grid if u have no plans on using nutcracker effects. Say u have a single strand candy cane. Only effects for it will be done by lor. Create a custom model, click part of my display. When you play in preview tab u will see it show the lor data.

[colonelcline]

One thing I did though was in the NC tab, I added some LOR props and added effects 'none,none' in every cell. Saved file, then reload in preview tab. Those LOR props and NC model both showed up. Do I need to do this in

What Sean said. I put my 16ch Lor boxes in as models just to check that I have the channels right. I just add a single line with 16 channels. So I have all my show in the Preview and I can see if they follow the beat and come on. Like I do with Lor's animation. I also put a number in front so that NC and the ones I work on most are at the top, like 0-MegaTree, 1-LakeTree, etc.

[rando1957]

Ok that worked but it appears I have to repeat that for every song.  Nothing in the xml file that I could copy from song to song to speed that up. At least I know what is required. Thanks for the help.

[sean]

Ok that worked but it appears I have to repeat that for every song.  Nothing in the xml file that I could copy from song to song to speed that up. At least I know what is required. Thanks for the help.

no,  i dont understand.

you make models for nc effects and you make models to match what you did in LOR.

suppose you have 500 channels of AC LOR, 1-500
You have 5000 channels of RGB 513-5513

for LOR you could make multiple models. one for your 3 color mini trees, your 16 channel arches, your 2 color eaves , .etc.
You just need to make these models once. Be sure "Part of my display" is checked on them. this will make them show up in the preview.

You now make models for the rgb stuff starting at ch 513. Make a megatree, rgb star .etc. Be sure "Part of my display" is checked also.

now
1) Open LOR (second option of Open) or import LOR sequences in
2) Add effects using the RGB models.
3) Press save.
4) Go to Preview, you will see your LOR channels activting the LOR models you made and the RGB models will show you the NC effects you added.

Need to edit LOR?
a) Go back to LOR, make changes and save as lms file
b) repeat 1-4 above

[JonB256]

I have a lot of "dumb" elements programmed in LOR and wanted to "see" them in the Nutcracker visualizer. Not so much how they looked but to verify that the data was present in the converted file and that the timing was right.

Rather than create 40 models and clutter my list, I created a single Matrix with enough pixels to cover the two DMX universes needed (less than 1024 total). Start channel was 1, end channel was 960.

I positioned that model in the upper right corner of my visualizer window. Now, when I play a sequence in the visualizer, I see the LOR information. After a while, you even learn what and where things are in that small display area.

[rando1957]

Thanks, I finally figured out what I was doing. When I loaded a new sequence in preview tab, it asked if I want to
"Reset my display flags on element model to match sequence?"  I have been choosing yes which removed the LOR props from my preview and only showed the NC models.  So now I choose 'no' and all models and LOR props are displayed. 

[sean]

yep, if u have created LOR models do not answer yes to that question.

i have no LOR models so i always answer yes.

[jnealand]

yep, if u have created LOR models do not answer yes to that question.

i have no LOR models so i always answer yes.

This is not a LOR issue, but an issue for anyone creating models to show in preview from any sequencer other than nutcracker.  The same thing happens with Vixen programming that has been imported into nutcracker.