Combining LOR and xlight sequence

[Lights On Fifth]

I know this an older thread but here it goes, Lor can not handle some of my sequences so I want to use Xlights to run everything this year, questions I have are
#1 I already have my 16 string pixel tree set up in Xlights I am using 5 universes, I have 240 AC channels of LOR that I need to change into DMX, ( don't how do this just yet) can I add a universe 6 for my LOR controllers and go from channel 1 to 240 for LOR stuff?
#2 Changing over my LOR channels should be easy should I delete all my RGB channels before I import into Xlights from LOR
#3 I am sure I will need an E131 and a hub to plug everything into, ( I already have an E682 for my pixel tree )
I hope these are clear enough questions. any help would be appreciatedll of sequencing is done for this year so it just a matter of changing which software I want to run my show

[sean]

#1 yes
#2 you dont rgb channels defined in LOR, just your ac channels

it is pretty straightforward. first define the controller(s) you now use in LOR. People suggest use a USB DMX option in the SETUP tab of xlights. Now add e1.31 universes. set channels per univers to 510 if using e1.31

import in your lms sequences into xlights
next add models and effects in nutcracker
save and play your show from xlights or use the falcon pi player.

[Lights On Fifth]

Thanks Sean, last question I have some channels that I am not using I have them as spares, because I am assigning all my other channels when I create the universe should I assign these spare channels in sequential order in case i want to add an element next year or even this year? o will this screw up Xlights?

I hope this makes sense
Example I have unit #8 or controller #8 I keep channel 11 as a spare, so channels 1 thru 10 in controller 8 are for my firesticks I have them as universe 6 ID# 15,16,17,18,19 ,20,21,22,23,24, can I make channel 8 ID# 25, even though it will do nothing?

[sean]

yes, assign spare channels. define as a big a block of lor channels as you might use in the next few years.

You then assign the big block of e1.31 channels in xlights.

now, it is NOT a big deal if you need to later add LOR channels.

the only think you would need to change , if you add more lor channels, is the starting channel number in your models. just one number per model would need to be changed

[Greg.Ca]

Sean,

I need to add to this thread as this directly pertains to me and my setup. Having a better understanding of how to sucessfully integrate LOR into Xlights has been somewhat confusing to me as well.

My current plan for this up coming Christmas season is to have the first 52 universes assigned as pixels.  48 universes for my 48 strands in my megatree  and the next 4 universes for my stellumina tree topper pixel star.  I have tested all the electronics and it seems to work perfectly using ONLY Xlights/Nutcracker.  The pixels are all run by E.131 controllers by J1sys. I just added on to it this year.

It worked fine last year using half as many pixels but LOR was NOT integrated into Xlights last year. Now comes the hard part. Integrating  more than 512 channels of LOR into Xlights and having Xlights run everything. It intimadates me a bit but I have full confidence that this should work perfectly if I do everything correct. I believe I've done my homework this year.

My current plan (which can be changed ) to have the next two universes in the Xlights setup (53 & 54) for my LOR AC channels. I already have universes 53 & 54 assigned and dedicated in LOR S3 in the LOR configuration file.

I certainly plan to run all my 550 LOR channels running in DMX mode all run by Xlights using two seperate USB-DMX smart dongles.  I also have some 'dumb RGB lights' in my LOR configuration file.  Is there any issues concerning configuring the dumb RGB channels in the Xlights setup??

All these dumb strips are is RGB over and over 48 times as I have 48 strands of dumb RGB strips that LOR is also 'controlling.' These are already configured in the LOR config file as dumb RGB channels. I would imagiane that these also HAVE to be configured in the Xlights setup file.  (Not sure how?) I'm sure I'll figure it out.

Do you see any issues so far as I haven't integrated LOR into Xlights yet and not sure what concerns might come up. I need to test this out on a much limited scale before Christmas to see if Xlights can control  two seperate universes of LOR AC channels, LOR Low voltage DC RGB channels as well as 52 universes of E.131 pixels.

Can my LOR channels and universes come AFTER my nutcracker universes in the Xlights setup? (I sure hope so!!) Anything else I'm possibly forgetting?

Please feel free for eanybody to chime in especially users who have both LOR and Nutcracker all running by Xlights.

Thanks very much!!

--Greg in Highlands Ranch--

[DDameron]

Hi, Greg...
My setup is kind of like yours, except that I have my LOR channels first (336 - running in DMX mode)... I did it this way because I program the AC lights in LOR and then import the sequence into either LSP or XLights... Then add Nutcracker effects. I run the show from Xlights... I need to run from Xlights because I need to execute a batch file to change the scrolling led sign I use to show what song and artist is playing, and export the RDS data to the EDM transmitter. Hope that helps...

Dan

[ranjanpa]

Is there a way to import the viualisation file from LOR. Else I have to create multiple models to simulate the non RGB channels.

I did create models in NC but it does not show clearly in the preview. I do click it to be part of my display.

I drew a roofline but it is hardly visible in preview and too as three dots.

Any solution to preview the elements imported from LOR.

thanks

[taybrynn]

Nope.   There is not a way.   It's your else situation.   Don't expect a totally realistic visualization.

[sean]

Is there a way to import the viualisation file from LOR. Else I have to create multiple models to simulate the non RGB channels.

I did create models in NC but it does not show clearly in the preview. I do click it to be part of my display.

I drew a roofline but it is hardly visible in preview and too as three dots.

Any solution to preview the elements imported from LOR.

thanks

Probably i can write a script that convert the LOR visualization file into a custom model in xlights. Not sure i can do this for this season

[ranjanpa]

Sean,

Why do I see only three light dots while creating a model of a roof line in NC. What am i missing.

Also I have struggled to create the models in your link - http://meighan.net/nutcr/

Any help on first five at least.

Thanks you

[JonB256]

Sean,

Why do I see only three light dots while creating a model of a roof line in NC. What am i missing.

In the Model List box, what does the Node Layout look like?  Is it just three "cells"?
If your roof line model is a "dumb string" of RGB (3 Channel RGB) instead of Pixels, that can happen.
How is your model setup?  A screen shot of the Modify panel for that model would help, too.

[ranjanpa]

Yes Don, It is a dumb RGB strand of three channels.

Regards

[JonB256]

Yes Don, It is a dumb RGB strand of three channels.

Regards

Assuming then that you are using either Display as Single Line or Window Frame
and Type of String is 3 Channel RGB

Then you need to set it as "actual # of strings" = 1
and the RGB Nodes per string to be more than one. The bigger the number, the longer the line will display.

[jnealand]

You can even lie about the number of nodes to make your preview look better if need be since nutcracker will only be programming 3 channels no matter how many nodes you tell the model.

[danj]

Following Sean's instructions and with a little help from lights on fifth (thanks so much to both of you), I am successfully getting all my LOR files converted to XL/NC.  After a little bit of going back & forth on what I needed to do, to match up AC & RGB channels between LOR & XL/NC, I finally figured out that the LOR channels should just be left "as is" and the XL/NC channel configuration (I blocked out the first 510 for LOR AC and set my first arch RGB channel at 511), everything worked great.