Ok here is the technical info
Yes I turned output to lights on

So to get 6 ArtNet universes working we have set the following in the ArtNet device
Universe 0 network 10 (0A) Subnet/ universe 161(A1) which in the software shows up as network 10 subnet 10 universe 1. Universe only tab = 2721
Universe 1 network 0 (00) subnet/universe 18(12) software network 0 subnet 1 universe 2 universe only tab = 18
Universe 2 net 0 sub/ universe 19(13) software net0 sub 1 universe 3 universe only =19
I could add the final 3 universes if needed
Do I totally understand the info above Nope, but if I changed the setting of universe 0 to network 0 then nothing works but its fine on universe 1 to 5