LOR Import - Some RGB Elements Don't Import Effects?

[mikewlaymon]

First, I'm late getting this done.

That said, I'm trying to move some LOR seqences to NC to add some new RGB elements.  My existing lms sequence has some LOR channels, and the rest RGB.

When I import the sequence on the convert tab, everything converts OK and the sequence runs in the layout tab.

When I import through the sequencer, everything imports OK, except the effects for my "flag" - a 15x25 horizontal matrix. 

Any suggestions?

[Gilrock]

So you're talking about the Import->Import Effects method?  Can you show how you are defining the mapping when you import?  Some people have had trouble because the way they named their channels in LOR didn't match up with the default namings we search for.  If you have names like STRING01-P01, STRING01-P02, etc.  then you can use the Map by Strand method and we will find those channel names and you will have options like STRING01, STRING02, etc. in your mapping options.  So some folks had to do a search and replace.  If you have rgb channels that aren't being pulled in then figure out what the channels names are.  You can always open up your LMS file in a text editor and find the channels.

[mikewlaymon]

Honestly, I don't know what "defining the mapping" means?

Is there a video tutorial or another thread in the forum that may explain that?

Here is a screenshot of my LOR channels.

-- Mike

[flyinverted]

If you had 2 megatrees in your Nutcracker config and import a LOR sequence with one megatree.. WHICH megatree do you want the channels to map to? The terms mapping/translate/correspond to can all be interchanged.

[Gilrock]

Well if you don't know what "mapping" is then you probably didn't Import Effects.  If you could answer the question of what process you are following I'll quit trying to guess what steps you are doing.

[flyinverted]

The OP said on the first post in this thread it was via the Convert tab.

mikewlaymon, when you said you imported on the convert tab, those two terms contradict in the essence of Nutcracker.

You can EITHER convert, OR import, but you can't import via the convert tab. Both the convert and import are different functions.

A convert will allow you to pick a sequence and convert from one sequencer type to another. Those effects can be in your xL/NC sequence, however they will not be editable.

An import effects will read your sequence and create the equivalent effects in Nutcracker.

Lastly there's an import Data Layers import, however I don't think you took that route.

[Gilrock]

Well I saw these two sentences so I was trying to figure out what "import through the sequencer" meant.

"When I import the sequence on the convert tab, everything converts OK"
"When I import through the sequencer, everything imports OK, except the effects for my "flag""

[mikewlaymon]

Still working on my terminology, but y'all gave enough clues for me to do some more research and locate a couple of videos I had not seen - miraculously I solved the problem.  It might have not been the most graceful approach, but I'll do better next time...

Thanks!

[flyinverted]

If you haven't already found it, there are many NC tutorial vids on the NC Wiki page.
http://www.nutcracker123.com/wk

[mikewlaymon]

Credits:

Daniel Kulp - Import as Effects Tutorial - 4.0.32: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnNeXwizh3U

Steve Giron - LOR CCR Conversion to Nutcracker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4p2PDw9Y1g

Andy Harrison - Lor to Xlights 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ndmU0MQho

[jeffl]

The videos from Dan and Andy are what helped me.  Subscribe to their channels as you find them.  The bonus is there are more videos for xLights than most other sequencing packages.

[Godman]

Question, Still learning Xlights....

I understand that I need to convert the LOR to DMX Channels in.,When importing LOR sequences into Xlights I was told by someone that Xlights didn't map the LOR channel to the model name but it used the universe numbers in LOR to map to the Universe numbers in Xlights?

Is that correct or does the Xlights model name have to match the LOR channel name to import properly??

Thanks!

[Gilrock]

You don't need to convert to DMX.  The answer depends on the type of import you are doing.  We have several options.  If you are doing a conversion or an import to data layer the model names on either side don't matter.  We just map their channels consecutively to our channel numbers.  If you are importing as effects then you have to create the mapping to teach the import tool which LOR model you want to map to which xLights model.  Did you watch those videos linked a couple posts above yours?

[Godman]

Yes I have watched both videos, what do you mean by import as a data layer?

[Godman]

Gil,

I'm a little confused on "You don't need to convert to DMX"

I thought I needed to convert all my LOR sequences to DMX (sequential numbering) before I can import the LOR sequence into Xlights?