Would like some help making the children laugh... will share results..

[kevinp]

Gerry!  You beat me to it.   

there is a jokes 8 left still.

I'll take it then.  I didn't even realize there were 8 files.  For some reason I had 7 in my head.  It's only 1:05 long so it shouldn't take too long to go through.

[logandc99]

You guys are too fast for me 
Anyway, finally got Jokes3 finished.

[gerry]

Good one logan !

The first is a learning curve . The next is much faster.

This will stand in good stead when we have to do singing faces..

I have to go out and so some weeding now. It's our first day of warmish weather in a while. The wife muttered something about jokes, gardening and dinner ..

[kevinp]

Here's jokes8.

[logandc99]

Good one logan !

The first is a learning curve . The next is much faster.

This will stand in good stead when we have to do singing faces..

Yes certainly by the end I realised that I could go a lot faster the next time. It's a great feature for speeding up the singing faces process which has been a very long winded process in the past. Unfortunately its not suitable for my singing Olaf and Tree but would be good for making singing faces in my megatree.

[dkulp]

Yes certainly by the end I realised that I could go a lot faster the next time. It's a great feature for speeding up the singing faces process which has been a very long winded process in the past. Unfortunately its not suitable for my singing Olaf and Tree but would be good for making singing faces in my megatree.

Why is it not suitable for your singing Olaf or Tree?   Just curious why you think that.

[Gilrock]

See I never create anything from the new sequence wizard so I never hit these problems.  I'll look into fixing this but the workaround is just don't try to create the world before the sequence is established.

Hi Gil,

If I understand you correctly, when creating a new sequence , I should Save it first with a name and then add the timings ?

If you don't use the new sequence wizard , what do you do when you create a new sequence ?

Perhaps the new sequence wizard could be changed to have the Save as file name as part of the dialogue (there is already the don't create sequence button there for those u wish not to do so)
and in which case the timing tab could be added as part of the flow. That screen which has all the icons for all the other sequencers - am guessing that most people skip past that most of the time ?

I use the new sequence wizard but I don't use it to add data layers and timings.  I just hit New Sequence, Musical Sequence, select my audio file, click 50ms, then click Done.  Now the sequence has been created i.e. you have a grid with a timing track.  At this point you can open the Sequence Settings and add timing marks or import data layers.  The wizard was really to try to help people that can't seem to find things in the menus but like I said it's been a pain to deal with because until you hit the Done button there is really no sequence for me to add timings to so I have to store them off in a temporary XML object so that I can add them after you hit done.  It's been the reason several things fail during new sequence creation but not if you go back into Sequence Settings later.

[logandc99]

Yes certainly by the end I realised that I could go a lot faster the next time. It's a great feature for speeding up the singing faces process which has been a very long winded process in the past. Unfortunately its not suitable for my singing Olaf and Tree but would be good for making singing faces in my megatree.

Why is it not suitable for your singing Olaf or Tree?   Just curious why you think that.

Actually now I come to think of it, I guess I can set the heads up as a custom models and use it the same way. Ok, time to have a look at that option. 

[gerry]

Until you hit the Done button there is really no sequence for me to add timings to so I have to store them off in a temporary XML object so that I can add them after you hit done.  It's been the reason several things fail during new sequence creation but not if you go back into Sequence Settings later.

Yep - doing it your way works fine. (I can hear you say ..of course it works fine ). So it is the Done that is key. Maybe the Done could be moved to the prior screen in the flow ? I don't think most people including myself care about what it says and where it is - 99 % of the time , I simply hit the same values (Musical seq, 20) on each screen and select Skip / Done to proceed. Since the VAMP plugins got added, I actually now pause to do the timings on the way in , as it is quicker.
   

[gerry]

Working on jokes 7,

Dan, out of curiosity , what is the difference for a face definition of Coro and Single Node.
I was going to ask why one monster had both as selectable and the other only one , but now they both have both values - so maybe I imagined that previously.

Before the Timing track eg Lyrics1 , Lyrics 2 , appears in the drop down box to assign to the face
(after breaking down the  words into phonemes) 
- is there a time gap for something being done in the background or
- do you have to save first or render first ?
   

[dkulp]

Working on jokes 7,

Dan, out of curiosity , what is the difference for a face definition of Coro and Single Node.
I was going to ask why one monster had both as selectable and the other only one , but now they both have both values - so maybe I imagined that previously.

When I originally did the faces, it was only "Coro" as I hadn't thought of anything else yet.   When I added the ranges and the matrix styles, I renamed it to "Single Node", but left in support for Coro.   If you go and redefine the faces, you'll likely only ever get "Single Node" from now on.

Before the Timing track eg Lyrics1 , Lyrics 2 , appears in the drop down box to assign to the face
(after breaking down the  words into phonemes) 
- is there a time gap for something being done in the background or
- do you have to save first or render first ?

Should need any of that. However, you MAY need to click on an effect on a different model and then click back on the faces effect.   I think the lists are only populated when the selected model changes. 

[gerry]

Attached is the Jokes7 xml.

[gerry]

Should need any of that. However, you MAY need to click on an effect on a different model and then click back on the faces effect.   I think the lists are only populated when the selected model changes.

Okay , Got that. Will update the manual. That was the bit that threw me somewhat.

I did notice that sometimes if you had marked the timing marks first , did other stuff and then came back later to add phrases, the white bar that allows you do double click and add a phrase between 2 marks would not be present. But if then created new timing marks around the same place (say 1 mm from the other) , they would appear as soon as you did the second one. then u could drag and merge the two.

Very nice to work with !

 

[Gilrock]

I did notice that sometimes if you had marked the timing marks first , did other stuff and then came back later to add phrases, the white bar that allows you do double click and add a phrase between 2 marks would not be present. But if then created new timing marks around the same place (say 1 mm from the other) , they would appear as soon as you did the second one. then u could drag and merge the two.

The new features for the phrases, words, and phonemes had no effect on the drawing of the lines between the timings.  But as has been the case since we started you can have a timing mark for example from 1-3 seconds and another from 4-5 seconds with no timing mark existing between 3 and 4.  Since no timing mark is in-between we draw no line there.  There's currently no way to add one in between without adding it short and then dragging it to magnetically connect.  Most people get confused because they think timing marks are the vertical lines but a timing mark is really a range with a start and an end.  If you see a vertical tick at 1, 2 and 3 seconds with lines in between all of them that's not 3 timing marks.  Its 2 timing mark ranges of 1-2 and 2-3.

[gerry]

Thanks Gil,

Compared to the old Papagayo, this is so much nicer to use .

Chalk and cheese ....

Will start on my own singing faces for Christmas now.