LOR CCR sequence conversion to Nutcracker - How to

[flyinverted]

Here is a video of how to do the LOR CCR conversion to Nutcracker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlN5eEFp6QQ&list=UUFuOIu47_WoboQ9hoL9fzzA

There are many vendors selling pre-made CCR sequences.  If you have a 12x50 or 16x50 megatree, I have figured out how to import the various for purchase LOR CCR Sequences to play on your pixel tree.

1. Get/obtain/procure/abscond/borrow a CCR LMS sequence.
2. Edit the LMS file with a text editor to remove the Star references if there are any (Yes 1,000's of lines)
3. Convert the file with the Nutcracker converter  THIS SHOULD FAIL THE FIRST TIME.
4.  Make note of how many LOR networks and the channel count of each network. See image below
5.  Delete your entire Nutcracker Lighting network setup  (DON'T SAVE)
6.  Add the appropriate number of USB/LOR networks and channel configs to match step 4.
7.  Convert the LMS file to XSEQ format. Do not check map empty LMS channels this will get rid of the CCR macro channels 151-157 for each CCR. 

If you get an error such as CCR01-P01 RED is unmapped, revisit step #6.  The network quantity and channel counts must match the sequence as displayed on step 4.

8.  Exit Nutcracker - DO NOT SAVE CHANGES
9.  Open Nutcracker and note your network changes are back to normal.
10. Play the sequence and enjoy

Note that the 50 pixel CCR strings all start with CH1 at the bottom.  My 100 pixel strings would not display correctly no matter how I modified the model layout. I ended up having to set the E682 to ZigZag every 50 pixels.  I then had to change my model from 12 strands of 100 (which it really is) to 24 strands of 50. This left me with the CCR sequences playing correctly and all my existing Nutcracker sequences playing correctly as well.

Thank you to dkulp for the conversion routine and help in understanding this.
Good luck!

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[sean]

i think ill make this sticky as it probably will come up again

thanks
sean

[bpducman]

Wow I was just about to ask the question "has anyone converted a 12 bar ccr sequence and played it in xl and not lost the sequence."

Great Timing

Thanks
Brad
 

[stanward]

What if the CCR (SuperStar) effects have been imported into an existing LOR sequence?  If you map the channels appropriately, will the CCR play as it should (if properly converted from *.lms to *.xseq)?

[bpducman]

I wish I could answer your question I just don't have the time now for trying something new.... For me though getting the 12 bars info into Nutcracker is a must for next year my lor files are over 850 meg now and when compressed they are still over 450 megs,. They just can't get any bigger windows  is going pop.



Brad

[flyinverted]

If you have a sequence with a star, it will work as long as prior to the import, you have the Nutcracker network setup to match the LOR network setup.

For this sequence you would need the following config:
USB1 - 6 channels
USB2 - 1800 channels

In this sample you may note the Warning regarding star channels being empty.

This means the author of this sequence configured X channels for star model but only included data in the first 6.  This is why you do not select the Map Empty LMS Channels button.






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[bpducman]

Mr. flyinverted

So "when" I have it imported into a .xseq file.  This is where I get really fuzzy. I can copy and paste to death in LOR all kinds of stuff from other LOR files or converted NC files. But if I want to run everything from nutcracker how do I combine .xseq files that have the same audio file associated with it. This is probably showing my stupidity with this software but I just love the effects I can do with xlights/nutcracker and thanks to all of those smart guys that can write this stuff it makes us look good out here.

Brad

OH is that RC Planes or those bigger ones.

[sean]

no stupid questions.

there are two types of files in Nutcracker
wizards.xseq, this is a binary file. You cant edit it. It is very compact and very fast to send data to controllers
wizards.xml, this file contains all of your nutcracker effecs (spirals, butterfly, .etc.)

If you have a LOR file, wizards.lms, when you convert it , it is changed into binary data and stuffe din thebeginning of the xseq file. Say the first 200 channels if that is what u used in LOR.
When you run nutcracker and create effects those are stuffed into the exact same file without touching the LOR data and fill the upper portion of the file. The xseq file also keeps the name of the audio file you used.

So
1) import lms file into an xseq file
2) add models and nutcracker effects
3) save updated xseq file.
4) Now you can play this big xseq file in xlights OR convert it into another big binary file wizards.fseq to send to the falcon pi player OR export it back for LOR

If you export it back to LOR, we read the big binary file and create the lms or lcb file for you/

[bpducman]

example
I have the 12 bar ccr file in LOR for Carol of the bells.
In NC  I have created 19 universes of effects for Carol of the bells. Non of which is for the 12 bar ccr file

What I have been doing at this point is to export NC effects into LOR and copy and paste them into the LOR file for carol of the Bells that has all of the channel configurations  for all 19 universes  pre made in the sequence.

Can I some how combine the newly imported 12 bar ccr file and the already made 19 universes file that is already made.

Universe 1 is empty not being used on all of my NC sequences,  I start at universe 2. I was leaving Universe 1 alone in case I needed it later for something.

Still don't have a grip on it

thanks
for try Sean
Brad

[bpducman]

U want me to import the LOR CCR file into the existing NC xseq file that has my 19 universes already made.
Right
Please say Right
I am going to explode!!!
Brad
 

[sean]

how many channels is your 12 ccr?  50 nodes each, 150 ch per string. means 5400 channels right?
do you have a range of channels reserved for that?

when you convert your lor data it will go to the same channel as it exists now in LOR.
but yes, you can just convert lor lms files and the data gets loaded into the xseq.

[bpducman]

Great I will work on that this weekend and Let you know how it goes.
Thanks for your patience
Brad

[BHoff]

FLYINVERTED or anybody,
     I guess I'm not very familiar with using a text editor.  When I deleted, what I thought, was all reference to Stars, and go in to convert it I get "unable to determine the length of this LOR sequence (looked for length of track 1).  Could you define for me maybe point a and point b to delete.  Thanks for any help.

Bill

[ValentinoRx]

I'm getting this error as well. Does the method listed at the beginning here still hold true or is there something else. All I want to do is get the 16 string tree portion if the sequence from holidaysequences into XL4. I'm assuming as a data layer. Full disclosure I'm no computer programmer but follow direction well. Lol. Thanks all

[Phrog30]

If you do a data layer, there really isn't a need to edit anything via a text editor. Just simply delete the channels in the sequence editor. The channels defined in lor need to match what you have setup in XL4.