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Offline MrRocketman

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True 3D?
« on: February 19, 2017, 12:56:18 AM »
I'm sure this has been asked a million times before, but are there any plans in the pipeline for 3D models and effects? Don't shoot me for asking haha. I've haven't heard it talked about recently but I'm pretty sure it's taboo since it would probably entail a complete rewrite :)

Anyways, any thoughts or info or a direction to start researching would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Offline Dave Nibeck

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2017, 03:06:08 PM »
The question comes up time to time and the answer has always been no. There was a recent thread about simulating 3d effects but nothing I can remember about developing an actual effect.

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Offline Gilrock

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2017, 06:52:59 AM »
I haven't seen a need for it.

Offline arw01

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2017, 04:57:02 PM »
The professional consensus is that if you need 3d, you can afford the software that was written in 3d, e.g. Madrix.  Otherwise you figure out how to do it in 3d and just close your eyes and imagine it.

Now being able to do some virtual reality headsets and walk through your display or sequence with hand motions, might be fun.

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2017, 07:28:51 AM »
Most the people that ask for this don't even have any props that can use it.  I've never thought things like a 3D cube matrix looked that great.  I haven't seen any of you have one in their yard.  If all you have is something like a sphere then that can easily be done in 2D just like a map of the earth can lie on a table.  If Sean wants to change the arrangement such that we are selling the program I'd be glad to dump more time into features like this that I don't need.

Offline MrRocketman

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2017, 11:56:13 AM »
Yeah I'm looking at a 3d matrix. Not a perfect cube though.

Didn't know Madrix existed. Holy crap is it expensive! I'd love to support more development of XLights, but not at the price point of Madrix! Or if I find time maybe I'll take a crack at the code.




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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2017, 02:13:47 PM »
I'd love a dollar for every time someone said they would take a crack at the code.

Offline arw01

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2017, 02:36:30 PM »
A wise xlights developer once told me that most of the people that take a crack at the code don't contribute it back.

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2017, 05:05:43 PM »
A wise xlights developer once told me that most of the people that take a crack at the code don't contribute it back.

I for one am thankful for that, we don't need code with cracks in it.  :)

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2017, 09:12:14 PM »
We have plenty of that already.

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2017, 11:36:08 PM »
I built a 9x9x9 pixel cube a year and a half ago - 729 pixels in < 1 cubic meter. I created a 3D model in Xlights, an isometric projection of the planes, and mapped some 2D effects on it and got some so-so results. I did take the time to create one 3D effect - near the end of the video. Looked better but not enough to compel me to incorporate the prop into my display. I turned it into three 9x27 matrices instead.

Test video: [url][https://vimeo.com/user15456920/httpsvimeocom9x9x9pixelcube/url]
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Offline MrRocketman

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2017, 02:16:40 PM »
What exactly do you mean by

I did take the time to create one 3D effect - near the end of the video.

Did you write new code? Or just use the existing effects on the 2D matrices?

Also, is there a general process for adding new effects to XLights? Or do I just start digging? I definitely won't have time to do full 3D, but I want to at least try to add some effects that work on a 3d matrix.



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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2017, 02:21:53 PM »
Sean did a video last year showing how to make your own effect, I would dig for that first.

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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2017, 05:09:24 PM »
Sean did a video last year showing how to make your own effect, I would dig for that first.

https://vimeo.com/138371241
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Re: True 3D?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2017, 05:14:17 PM »
First thing is you need to actually build the code.  Not much use asking for other info until you get past that hurdle.