Thanks Gil, it just seems to be that popup box, but thats ok and it's not critical, just annoying as hell if you dont know. If I was to swap screens so the overview was undocked on my second screen it works but since my second screen is 27 inch and the laptop just 15 inch, the programming gets done on the larger monitor leaving the laptop monitor for the overview only.
I tried moving the popup for the effects preset and it sometimes remembers the location, and other times it just puts it back be the overview again, but I have not worked out why or if it remembers it after restart etc