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Offline jnealand

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« on: October 30, 2014, 10:42:15 AM »
When I move my mouse to the layering dropdown an explanation of what each layering effect does appears.  However it disappears before I can even read the whole list let alone understand it.  Where can I find a copy of that list so I can print it out and study it? I looked at the help on the menu bar.  I even downloaded the manual on the releases web page, but nada.  However, I did learn some stuff looking at the manual.  Great start Sean.
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Re: layering
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2016, 08:46:49 PM »
The manual that you looked at, I haven't read the full literature in the pop up but I think a similar description to what is found on the pop up is located on page #107.  It basically says to try it out and see what happens. I wish I could help you out more but I'm learning the same thing right now. I'm just plugging in the suggested settings and seeing what happens right now (with a whole lot of playing around with settings also).

It would be nice to see a video guide so the examples can be visually demoed and explained but that is a lot to be asking of someone else's time and, although slower, we will probably be further ahead with the trial and error method. One can dream though.


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Re: layering
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2016, 08:55:32 PM »
I only know what a few of them do also.  The easiest thing is use 2 layers and trying a couple effects like a spiral over a solid color and watch what happens when you select the different layering methods.

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Re: layering
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2016, 09:03:47 PM »
Steve Giron posted a video showing the different layer effects on the official Facebook group, November 12th 2015.  https://www.facebook.com/Flyinverted/videos/10153301923367921/
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Re: layering
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2016, 11:09:19 PM »
When I move my mouse to the layering dropdown an explanation of what each layering effect does appears.  However it disappears before I can even read the whole list let alone understand it.  Where can I find a copy of that list so I can print it out and study it? I looked at the help on the menu bar.  I even downloaded the manual on the releases web page, but nada.  However, I did learn some stuff looking at the manual.  Great start Sean.
Ditto.

Those descriptions actually seem quite good before they disappear.  Is there a way to make the popup stay visible longer? 

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Re: layering
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2016, 06:34:00 AM »
Yeah just screen capture it and make it your desktop background.

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Re: layering
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2016, 07:33:46 AM »
Layering defines how Effect 1 and Effect 2 will be mixed together.
Here are the Choices
Effect 1: Shows only Effect 1. Slide the slider to the right to blend in some Effect 2.
Effect 2: Shows only Effect 2. Slide the slider to the right to blend in some Effect 1.
1 is Mask: (Shadow) Effect 1 will cast a shadow onto Effect 2 for every Effect 1 pixel that has a non-black value.
2 is Mask: (Shadow) Effect 2 will cast a shadow onto Effect 1 for every Effect 2 pixel that has a non-black value.
1 is UnMask:  (Mask) Only allow Effect 2 to show through when Effect 1 has a non-black pixel.
2 is UnMask:  (Mask) Only allow Effect 1 to show through when Effect 2 has a non-black pixel.
Shadow 1 on 2: Take brightness and Saturation from 1, use hue from 2
Shadow 2 on 1: Take brightness and Saturation from 2, use hue from 1
1 reveals 2: (Superimpose) Effect 1 reveals Effect 2
2 reveals 1: (Superimpose) Effect 2 reveals Effect 1
Average: Take value of Effect  and Add it to Value from Effect 2. Average the sum
Bottom-top: Effect 1 is put on bottom of model, Effect 2 is put on top in a plit screen display
Left-Right: Effect goes 1 goes on the left side, Effect 2 on the right. Split screen goes down middle of model.

Copied and pasted directly from the xLights code.  But a screen capture did help verify.
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Re: layering
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2016, 08:07:50 AM »
Thank you so much for posting that list!

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Re: layering
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2016, 08:29:57 AM »
The main thing to keep in mind is that those descriptions were written when xLights only had the ability to have 2 effects so that's what all the Effect 1 and Effect 2 mean.  So Effect 2 was the bottom layer.  We now can have tons of layers and we render the effect layers from the bottom up so Effect 2 now means the result of all layers below the current layer being rendered and Effect 1 is the current layer.

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Re: layering
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 09:05:26 AM »
The main thing to keep in mind is that those descriptions were written when xLights only had the ability to have 2 effects so that's what all the Effect 1 and Effect 2 mean.  So Effect 2 was the bottom layer.  We now can have tons of layers and we render the effect layers from the bottom up so Effect 2 now means the result of all layers below the current layer being rendered and Effect 1 is the current layer.


Oh Shyte, just when it started to make sense............. :o

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Re: layering
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2016, 10:22:42 AM »
This is all in response to a question I asked back in 2014.  Does anyone look at the dates of the original questions before posting answers.  There was no manual back when I first posted that questions and there must be over 100 new releases since then that have changed everything.  LOL

But thanks for all the answers, just a day late and dollar short.
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Re: layering
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 11:38:22 AM »
Isn't there a red letter warning that says something like "you are replying to a topic that hasn't been active for over 120 days" - I usually look for that but no, I too am guilty of responding to old posts.  Good call out Jim.
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Re: layering
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2016, 12:58:25 PM »
I was responding to the new person since it was obviously still a problem.