FPP Proxy?

[Rudy B.]

It is on the FPP....then in Xlights you can click the controller in the setup section and add the proxy address toward the bottom of the window.  For me, it's like 10.0.0.137/proxy/192.168.1.39 

[Gilrock]

Really if you don't know what it is you don't need it.  What problem are you trying to solve?  You only set the proxy if you have a controller that cannot be reached without going through another IP address as a middle man.  If that's not the problem you are trying to solve then leave it alone.

[Santacarl]

Really if you don't know what it is you don't need it.  What problem are you trying to solve?  You only set the proxy if you have a controller that cannot be reached without going through another IP address as a middle man.  If that's not the problem you are trying to solve then leave it alone.

Thanks for the explanation Gil.  I started thinking about this while pondering  situation where I have a few controllers I can't 'see' on my home network.

I use a stand alone network for my display.  It uses 192.168.2.xxx addresses.  My home network uses 192.168.0.xxx addresses. 

Oddly enough if I take the cat 5 cable out of my show network/router and plug it into the home network/router I CAN 'see' all my Falcon Controllers but I CAN NOT 'see' my San Devices (E682's).  I like accessing the show controllers with my home network computer because it's much easier to make changes than with my show network which I access with my phone.

So...if in XL I enter the IP for the FPP in the FPP proxy column where I use the E682 ports does that the FPP the 'middle man' you're referring to that will allow me to access the E682's with my home network?

[Gilrock]

I would just test it.  You know I used to have a separate show network but it became a problem after I added security cameras and wanted the same computer to see the cameras on the home network and the controllers on the show network.  Bill Porter convinced me I didn't really need a show network and I collapsed it down to a single network for the whole house and everything works great.  You won't find many that have more traffic on their home network so if it works for me it should work for everyone.

[Santacarl]

I would just test it.  You know I used to have a separate show network but it became a problem after I added security cameras and wanted the same computer to see the cameras on the home network and the controllers on the show network.  Bill Porter convinced me I didn't really need a show network and I collapsed it down to a single network for the whole house and everything works great.  You won't find many that have more traffic on their home network so if it works for me it should work for everyone.

Thanks again....I guess I must have a anemic router/modem.  If I run a sequence on the home network it knocks other devices off or won't allow them to log on....and those that do stay on often experience data issues....  So I went the route of show network instead of risking buying another modem/router for the home network that MIGHT also not handle the show and home combination.

As to just try it....I can do that but I hoping to understand if that's the purpose of that column or if it just happens to work in my situation. 

[Gilrock]

Its how you have things wired up that determines the answer.  Does the E682 plug into the network port on the FPP?  or all they connected via a switch?  To use FPP as a proxy usually means you are connecting to the FPP over its wireless connection and then it forwards the data to the controller that is physically connected to its wired port.  That's what makes it a proxy.  You know it's like if Jill will only talk to Bill and Gil wants to say something to Jill then Gil has to tell Bill who in turn will tell Jill what Gil had to say...lol.

[Santacarl]

Its how you have things wired up that determines the answer.  Does the E682 plug into the network port on the FPP?  or all they connected via a switch?  To use FPP as a proxy usually means you are connecting to the FPP over its wireless connection and then it forwards the data to the controller that is physically connected to its wired port.  That's what makes it a proxy.  You know it's like if Jill will only talk to Bill and Gil wants to say something to Jill then Gil has to tell Bill who in turn will tell Jill what Gil had to say...lol.

Gil better be careful!  Haha....

The #682's plug in to a switch.  I don't use the wireless on the FPP (Cat 5 to the router). I just use the wireless on the show modem/router to access the FPP and controllers...but even if I hook 1 E682 directly to the home network's router I can't access it through the home network 192.168.0.xxx protocol...I have to put the E682 into a mode where it's IP is 169.254.74.73 (I think that's it's default) in order to get to the E682s UI.

On the show network I can easily access the E682 UI with my phone (Phone>Wifi modem/router>Switch>E682)..easy peasy....

[Gilrock]

Well you probably have the E682 set to a certain subnet so when you move it things aren't going to just work.

[Santacarl]

Well you probably have the E682 set to a certain subnet so when you move it things aren't going to just work.

Yeah...probably.... Network stuff baffles me....subnets are a total mystery as to how to tinker with them..... 

[Gilrock]

Unless you do something fancy devices on a network only can talk to each other if the first 3 numbers match.  So if its set to 192.168.1.x in the device its not going to work when you plug it into 192.168.0.x.  That's about as simple as it gets.

[Santacarl]

Unless you do something fancy devices on a network only can talk to each other if the first 3 numbers match.  So if its set to 192.168.1.x in the device its not going to work when you plug it into 192.168.0.x.  That's about as simple as it gets.

Yeah I figured out that 3rd set of numbers as being the reason....Just haven't figured out why I can see the Falcons on my home network that are set to a different 3rd number set yet can't see the E682's.... I mean the Falcons are set, by me, since I'm using unicast (no DHCP) and so are the E682's to run on my show network yet I CAN see the Falcons but not the E682's on the home network.....The Falcons and E682's have the same number in that third set....It makes my punkin head hurt thinking about it....Haha

[Gilrock]

Well without seeing any setup pages we can only imagine.

[Santacarl]

Well without seeing any setup pages we can only imagine.

Here's 1 of each....in case you're curious....maybe there's something there I don't see or more likely understand...

[Gilrock]

Well I don't see how you are getting to the Falcon on the 192.168.0.x subnet.  Are you sure the Falcon doesn't also have a wireless interface?

[Santacarl]

Well I don't see how you are getting to the Falcon on the 192.168.0.x subnet.  Are you sure the Falcon doesn't also have a wireless interface?

I can get to all the Falcons on the 192.168.0.x subnet so if I'm getting there through wireless they set themselves up because I didn't.....

The 192.168.0.x subnet is on my home network modem/router so I can't turn it off as the cat5 goes from that home modem/router to the Falcon.

I've never even peeked at the wireless on the Falcon.  How would I check if it's set up/working on the Falcon?