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trouble converting LOR
« on: September 29, 2015, 05:10:25 PM »
I have spent the entire day trying  get a sequence to import and have had no success. I have watched many of the videos in the wiki and followed along and still don't get it. The channels never match up even when I import the effect and do the mapping screen they do not match the LOR sequence.  I really want to cut the LOR cord but don't know what else to do. I spent an hour renumbering an LOR channel config putting it on a DMX universe 1-110. When I attempted to convert the new setup, NC just crashes. My LOR sequences were built up over about 6years and the different layers may be the issue I just dont know what else to try. Sorry venting  little bit.

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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2015, 06:03:22 PM »
I have spent the entire day trying  get a sequence to import and have had no success. I have watched many of the videos in the wiki and followed along and still don't get it. The channels never match up even when I import the effect and do the mapping screen they do not match the LOR sequence.  I really want to cut the LOR cord but don't know what else to do. I spent an hour renumbering an LOR channel config putting it on a DMX universe 1-110. When I attempted to convert the new setup, NC just crashes. My LOR sequences were built up over about 6years and the different layers may be the issue I just dont know what else to try. Sorry venting  little bit.

Do you have your models in Xlights set up?
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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2015, 07:07:33 AM »
yes I have models, and have followed the steps in the videos from the Wiki. The issue I have found even after I mapped out the sequence in the add effects section, there are random effects in the NC playback that are not in the LOR playback. I have been through my models and made sure they are in the proper positions and that there are no conflicts. All of my mirrored effects are only entered once and the "copy" just uses the same channels.  It is just a slow process and I believe its from patching and changing my original LOR sequences over the years is why I just cant convert.

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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2015, 07:14:57 AM »
Jim,
I use data layer approach for bringing in my LOR sequences.  I do not want to edit my LOR effects in XL so this should allow for a clean import.  Are you using that or are you using the import feature?  The data layer method does show the status of the import and any errors you may have.  Others also use the 'convert' tab, which I used last year but no longer am using it.
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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2015, 07:25:16 AM »
Jim,
I use data layer approach for bringing in my LOR sequences.  I do not want to edit my LOR effects in XL so this should allow for a clean import.  Are you using that or are you using the import feature?  The data layer method does show the status of the import and any errors you may have.  Others also use the 'convert' tab, which I used last year but no longer am using it.

Where is the like button!!

Yes if your lor stuff is is the way you want it then plain and simple use the data layers import, if you have no need to to tweak the sequence then don't try any other method.
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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2015, 08:13:18 AM »
For me, I'm still tweaking some things in my LOR sequences. Since I import them as a Data Layer, it is very simple to update.

Edit your LOR file. Save so that the LMS file is up to date.
Open your Nutcracker file. Go to Settings, Sequence Settings, then to the Data Layer tab. Go the LMS data layer (usually the second +) and then Re-Import.  Then click Done.

Once you Save, the new updated ISEQ file is merged with the FSEQ file and your changes are there.

This whole process takes just a minute or so.


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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2015, 12:10:28 PM »
agree - works like a charm and no issues
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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2015, 01:27:37 PM »
I will try the data layer method.

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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2015, 01:51:26 PM »
I tried a data layer Import  and got the random mash up of channels flashing. The only way I have gotten anything close it to create a sequence then Import the effects. I am not exaggerating when I said I spent hours doing this yesterday. I know its got to be something to do with my LOR files them selves because too many people can do it, without the problems I am having.
 

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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2015, 02:05:24 PM »
Show a screenshot of your setup page.

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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2015, 03:25:19 PM »
here it is

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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2015, 03:42:27 PM »
Ok that seems fine.  I mainly wanted to make sure you weren't using the one big single channel feature cause we found a bug with that today.

The other usual problems folks have is not defining all the channels in LOR so when we import them the other channels get squished into the wrong positions.  Before you do the import switch to the Convert tab because it will print out messages there.  If can screenshot that page after it converts.  But I gotta think it's either you don't have the models mapped to the right channels so they aren't matching your LOR setup or you have unmapped channels in LOR.  Do you check any of the boxes on the LOR import options?

One trick is create a new show directory and create a one big matrix with all your channels.  Then when you import you can play the sequence and see where channels are firing on the matrix and that might clue you in to where a channel might be importing into the wrong spot.  Make sure you render after the import.

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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2015, 05:30:47 PM »
Ok will do . I found one issue I was having with random flashes. The sequence I was working on had custom timing where some of the set timing blocks have been subdivided. Even cut and pasting it to a new set LOR grid nothing would line up because its just pasting blocks not the subdivisions......

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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2015, 05:42:45 PM »
here is the screen shot and a shot of the LOR with the subdivided timings

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Re: trouble converting LOR
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2015, 06:04:50 PM »
bump?any thoughts....