Lilia Sequence: Hallelujah (Full Model Version) by Pentatonix

[sean]

not showing it to Lilia is for my protection. I have 90% of the lights working, well maybe 80%. She has not seen her sequences in lights yet. Her OCD personality makes great sequences, pita to get everything working in real life.

She can see a 1/4" out of level  condition across 8'. I sometimes tilt pictures in the house to mess with her. She is not on FB here so she doesn't know. I just put in a new dishwasher. The front lip is off by 1/8". I will be fixing it.

I am hoping to get all lights working in the next 10 days and then film her sequences on our house.

[Gilrock]

Thanks, Sean.  That's the kind of response I was expecting.  I am not the type to post things frivolously.  I do lots of testing and research before I ever report any issues.  I never understand why Gil is always so quick to shoot down the facts that I report and then gets all defensive when I back it up with evidence. That's the only source of frustration. 

I understand there are good reasons for the pinwheel rewrite. I have no issue with that. Your comment about not showing it to Lilia validates what I have been saying all along.   Clearly there is some issue here that needs to be looked at.  Thank you for acknowledging it and that's all I needed.

Ok where did I shoot down facts?  Most of my frustration is when people want help and provide us very little facts.  Most of my responses are intended to provoke more information from the user.  Where did I get "all defensive" until right now when I feel the need to defend myself from your accusations?  You know I don't make any money from you buying this sequence yet I spent time last week investigating this pinwheel cross issue.  And yesterday I was still trying to help while I was sitting at work.  I was basically fact gathering so I could check it out when I got home.  But you took something I said the wrong way and went postal on us.  You seemed to be bent of shape because I asked for "evidence".  Well I admitted I didn't see the post in the other thread so how do you expect me to troubleshoot based on your initial comment yesterday?  I was basically saying we don't have enough information to look into the problem I never said it wasn't a problem.  If I can't reproduce it I can't fix it.  Go back and read everything in the thread and show me where I was out of line?

[pixelpuppy]

I was basically saying we don't have enough information to look into the problem. I never said it wasn't a problem.  If I can't reproduce it I can't fix it.

BUT....   you do have enough information to look into it.  You did say it was fixed even though I've shown its still a problem. And it is reproducible.  File this under "where did I shoot down the facts?"

But you took something I said the wrong way and went postal on us. 

So according to you,  I was "yelling" at you earlier and now  I "went postal" on you?  Seriously, which one of us is taking things the wrong way?    LMAO

I'm very calm and I'm very particular in my posts to be factual and accurate.  I check and often double-check before I post.  Can you quote something I said that is incorrect?  I say what I mean.  Where was I yelling and where was I going postal?  You are quite the hypocrite to accuse me of taking things the wrong way when you take my posts as yelling and going postal.

show me where I was out of line

Is that a sincere question?  Do you really want me to show you where you were out of line? My gut tells me you don't want to hear it, you just want to argue with it.  Maybe you don't mean what you write.  I don't know you personally and can only take your word as its written. 

I have a list of examples where you were out of line but it doesn't belong in this thread. Since you've ignored my PM's in the past, the ball is in your court to PM me back if your question is sincere.   I look forward to having a civil conversation with you but I'm not holding my breath based on your antagonistic responses in this and other threads.

With all that said, my initial post in this thread is a reply to Sean not you.  I never said GIL broke this.  I never said this is GIL's fault.  I never said GIL needs to fix this.  You took that on by your own choosing.  If you're offering to help that's fine but don't accuse me of demanding your help and not providing enough information.  Other people may do that, but I have not.  Show a little respect.  You are not the only smart person here.  And learn a little humility.  Stop trying to be Mr. Know-It-All.

The response I got from Sean is exactly what I was looking for.  Take that as an example to follow.

[Gilrock]

I was basically saying we don't have enough information to look into the problem. I never said it wasn't a problem.  If I can't reproduce it I can't fix it.

BUT....   you do have enough information to look into it.  You did say it was fixed even though I've shown its still a problem. And it is reproducible.  File this under "where did I shoot down the facts?"

At the time you had not shown it to be a problem in THIS thread.  I stated that it was fixed in v55 so if its still a problem show some evidence.  Its not my fault that you took that statement so negative and have been trying to blast me every post.  I spent time last week look at the problem.  I worked with Chris and identified other problems his changes had caused.  When he checked in the final changes Sean tested it and told me it was fixed for Lilias sequence.  So when I said it was fixed it was a good faith statement since had not read your other reply in a completely different thread.  You're putting words in my mouth and you're making too many assumptions.

But you took something I said the wrong way and went postal on us. 

So according to you,  I was "yelling" at you earlier and now  I "went postal" on you?  Seriously, which one of us is taking things the wrong way?    LMAO

I'm very calm and I'm very particular in my posts to be factual and accurate.  I check and often double-check before I post.  Can you quote something I said that is incorrect?  I say what I mean.  Where was I yelling and where was I going postal?  You are quite the hypocrite to accuse me of taking things the wrong way when you take my posts as yelling and going postal.

Yes I consider it going postal...why do you think Sean said "Relax people"?  That wasn't because I said I had tested on a 54x100 tree.   I said was "I tested on the 54x100 tree it was created for".  Please tell me why you took that as being negative?  Just look at the book you wrote as a reply to that post.  And when you replied to Sean later you had to say negative comments about me.  I don't care if you saw me say something out of line in the past that doesn't mean you show up here loaded for bear and try to jump on me for no reason.  You are out of line here.

show me where I was out of line

Is that a sincere question?  Do you really want me to show you where you were out of line? My gut tells me you don't want to hear it, you just want to argue with it.  Maybe you don't mean what you write.  I don't know you personally and can only take your word as its written. 

I have a list of examples where you were out of line but it doesn't belong in this thread. Since you've ignored my PM's in the past, the ball is in your court to PM me back if your question is sincere.   I look forward to having a civil conversation with you but I'm not holding my breath based on your antagonistic responses in this and other threads.

Yes its sincere but again you heard something different than what I said.  I'm talking about in this thread.  Its not fair to drag up old stuff and say that gives you the right to act like this towards me now.   I know if I'm trying to push someone's buttons and I was not doing that to you.    Go back and read this thread but without the assumption that every time I speak I'm trying to insult you because I NEVER did.  I never said anything to treat you as stupid.  If I say I tested on a 54x100 tree and you extrapolate that into calling you stupid that's not on me.

With all that said, my initial post in this thread is a reply to Sean not you.  I never said GIL broke this.  I never said this is GIL's fault.  I never said GIL needs to fix this.  You took that on by your own choosing.  If you're offering to help that's fine but don't accuse me of demanding your help and not providing enough information.  Other people may do that, but I have not.  Show a little respect.  You are not the only smart person here.  And learn a little humility.  Stop trying to be Mr. Know-It-All.

The response I got from Sean is exactly what I was looking for.  Take that as an example to follow.

I never said you demanded my help but you did take my attempt to help and interpreted it as insults when that was never intended.  Yes I asked for more information.  I could not tell what size tree you were using without trying to manually count from the screenshots.  The problem is you interpreted every one of my replies as an attack trying to shoot you down like it wasn't a problem.  You're wrong...that was never my intent I was gathering all the info I needed to troubleshoot when I got home from work.  I've said that 3 times.  You obviously don't believe any of what I've said my last couple replies.

I'm sorry you took things the wrong way.  This wouldn't have happened if we were in person.  You ask for me to show you respect and then in the very next 2 sentences you insult me by saying I do not have humility and that I'm trying to be a Mr. Know-It-All.  You keep using my name.  I have never used your name once and I have not name called.  I believe I am showing respect.  Maybe you should read Sean's post again and follow your own advice.  I'm done talking about this.  You can post and insult me if you want and I will not reply.  I don't have time for this.

[debenham]

I was mostly offline over christmas/new year so didn't get much chance to look at this.
I don't think I can modify the fixed pinwheel to look identical to the old one
The old way it was done was not actually correct to the description of how the pinwheel was meant to work and I can't see a way of making the new pinwheel work in the sameway without introducing some major performance impacts/changes to how it works.
For making a cross I would think that using an image effect is better - or use two layers with the fill effect to create the cross.
For example one layer with position=6, offset=60 and direction=up (for the horizontal bar)
Then another layer with position=10, offset=50 and direction=left (for the vertical bar)
Make sure "offset in pixels" is not checked and this should scale up/down to any size tree
The thickness of the bars can be controlled via the position setting

[debenham]

I've made some more changes to pinwheel now - adding an option to use the old render method or the new one.
The old method is the default and will enable the cross to work as previously (but without the benefit of the speed improvement and still with the problem of gaps in large models)